Posts tagged "45 Master Characters"
Asker jkateel Asks:
If you've answered this question before, I missed it! I picked up 45 Master Characters, at your suggestion (and love it!). Do you see Dean as the "Protector" archetype, moving into the villainous Gladiator, from the glimpses we see of him in Purgatory?
flutiebear flutiebear Said:

Yay, I’m glad you like it!

I always saw Dean as more of a Nurturer archetype (Demeter). For those who don’t have the book, this archetype is all about his/her sense of duty to others. As stated in the book:

The Nurturer cares about the welfare of her children, whether there’s danger present or not. She has a tendency to put others ahead of her sorts – a martyr of sorts – but no one comes before the one in her care, especially if it’s a child. She would sacrifice an entire town if it meant saving her child. (pg 52)

For Dean, that “child” is obviously Sam.

What does the Nurturer fear?

  • The Nurturer fears losing the person in her care. Her whole identity and reason to live depend upon caring for another…
  • She fears not being there to save her child. If anything happens, she’ll take all the guilt upon herself and fall into a devastating depression…
  • She couldn’t stand it if her child or patient left. She needs to be needed…
  • She’s not into self-analysis, because she’s afraid of her own thoughts and emotions. She hates quiet time, because she doesn’t like to think about her ‘stuff’. She’d rather be busy with anything else to avoid it. (pg 52-53)

Well doesn’t THAT describe Dean to a T?

Purgatory does seem to have changed Dean’s character quite a bit, and he’s definitely exhibiting shades of Protector (his connection to the body and the physical, etc.) Whether this is a long-lasting fundamental change to his character, we’ll have to wait and see, as he re-adjusts to life topside.

(Even though you didn’t ask — I see Sam as part Maiden, part Messiah. Bobby’s a Mentor. Cas undergoes the most flexibility of character – in S4, he’s a Businessman; in S5/S6 he’s a Protector-Messiah; and in S7 he’s a Mystic. What do you think?)

Asker fragilespark Asks:
I'm thinking of getting the 45 Master Characters book, it sounds interesting. Do you recommend it?
flutiebear flutiebear Said:

Highly! (If you couldn’t tell by my constant quoting and paraphrasing :D) It’s not perfect by any means, and it doesn’t cover every situation or character, but it’s one of my favorite story “how to” books around.

(Here it is on Amazon.)

Asker Anonymous Asks:
Okay, you've convinced me. I purchased a copy of 45 Characters today and am going through the archetypes at length. Question for you: An aggressive, pro-templar Marian Hawke who always acts against mages and sides with Meredith in the end--a mage Marian, specifically. Which archetype is she? What of this Hawke as rivalmancing Anders? What of this Hawke friendmancing Fenris?
flutiebear flutiebear Said:

I’d say probably an aggro, pro-Templar Hawke would classify as a Dictator archetype. A few of the more typical characteristics of this personality include:

  • An obsession to control, dictate and rule over others — someone who thinks fear is more powerful than love
  • Judgmental and a harsh, unforgiving wielder of justice (and justice is whatever he/she says it is)
  • Creates meaningless rules and laws just to have something to lord over his or her compatriots
  • Places no value on family responsibility or duty. Often absent from family life. Does whatever the hell he/she wants without regard to siblings or parents

You get the point. She’d be arrogant and painfully hypocritical, considering that a Mage Marian still hails from a magical background, and there’s a certain kind of marvelous tragedy about it all, but augh, what a punch to the gut it would be, right?

Personally, I see Anders as a cross between the Messiah/Punisher and The Artist/Abuser archetypes, which when paired with a Dictator would inevitably lead to a rivalmance (quite a dramatic one, in fact).

As far as Fenris goes, he’s probably a a Protector/Gladiator type, and he’d naturally gravitate to a Dictator as someone to protect (hence the friendmance). He’d probably struggle a lot more with a Diplo!Hawke (who probably more closely fits the Nurturer or King archetype than the Dictator).